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Topic Started: Feb 27 2014, 07:11 PM (57,121 Views)
Fireball Spam
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The characters revealed in all the Directs and stuff were great, though I can't help but be disappointed by the ones revealed in the leak.

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Edited by Fireball Spam, Sep 11 2014, 08:08 PM.
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Pieman19
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Ugh.
You can dislike Bowser Jr as a character but at least he has a new and unique moveset
It could be worse, he could just be a small, faster, weaker Bowser.
Edited by Pieman19, Sep 11 2014, 07:32 PM.
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Flamerider
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I know I'll settle down about it and my conviction against them will wear off. It happened for Palutena (which I was only a little sour about because it didn't make sense in my head and seemed a little pretentious), it happened for Wii Fit Trainer, and it happened for a bunch of other things that happened that I didn't like.

I'll not like it at first, but I'll buck up and get used to it. I'll have to. This is the way it's going to be now.

Can't hate on the ones that actually bring stuff to the table, that's good for them. But I keep thinking that Dark Pit might just be shallow Sakurai favouritism because he worked on KI: Uprising. That's not going to be something I'll get out of my mind without a lot of convincing.
Edited by Flamerider, Sep 11 2014, 08:04 PM.
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Captain Rodriguez
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I just hope that his inclusion in Smash doesn't make people discredit Dark Pit as a character. He's based as fuck in Uprising.
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Now that you mention that, Dark Pit likely has voice lines and writing for himself too. Which means that the overall effort to implement him is more than it was for Dr. Mario, who would've required one model and then bugger all else. I was going to compromise on the idea that A: he was in melee and B: Fludd drools Mario Tornado rules, but that kind of puts him into perspective now.

BTW I'm trying really hard to give everything a bright side for me to look at. I've got no clue what characters I'd put in those spaces instead, and I've got no clue why I feel this choked up about it.
Edited by Flamerider, Sep 11 2014, 08:29 PM.
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Pieman19
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Ugh.
As far as "Dark" characters go, Pitoo is one of the better ones. Sure, he starts out like "Grr, I'm a bad boy" but he changes for the better as the story goes.

Buuuut only a million people played KI:U, a lot of people aren't familiar with him and only see him as an "edgy" Pit. Maybe if he's good in Sm4sh people will come around to him.
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NottyRose
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A rose, by any other name...
To me, complaining about clones is like finding a dollar on the ground and getting upset because it's not a five dollar bill instead. S'kinda silly.

But then, I got everything on my Smash wish list, so I'm probably a little biased.

Super hyped for this game, hope the demo is out soon, at least.
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Shoenin
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I complained about WFT and said "why"

Then her reveal trailer happened and all was well.
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JNT
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>Replaced

That is something that no one can really prove. Does the game has a magic number of set characters for a roster? How does having one character means they replaced Lucas or Wolf or anyone? As I see it, clones take no effort and they are pretty much filler.

I agree having Lucas, Wolf and Mewtwo would been better, but the doc and pit are not here in their place, or Bowser Jr, no one replaces another character, Sakurai could have added them too if he wanted (maybe the dlc thing turns out real).
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Babelincoln
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Clone talk: in Melee, Sakurai contemplated adding King Dedede as the last character near the end of the game's development. Instead, he was able to fit in all of the 7 clones in the game instead.

So, yeah. They don't take nearly as much time since most of the work is already done off the same skeleton and animations. Also Dr. Mario is the best Mario and I will fight any who disagree.
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pyrrhickong
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Sep 11 2014, 04:54 PM
I can't think of a single reason for Pitto's existence.
"Hey Pit's Voice Actor, want more money?"
"Do I?!"
"Then let's have you riff on Smash Bros as Dark Pit now! Smash Taunts for real, yo!"
"Radicool! Wait, but then you'd have to make a new character otherwise the game couldn't figure it out just by an alt color"
"That's totally fine, bro, we got your back!"
"Neato torpedo! Thanks NintenBRO"

at least that's how I like to imagine it happened
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TTTTTsd
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Dr. Mario is incredibly worth it. It's Mario without FLUDD. This is the Mario that people have wanted for a while. Hell, from some footage, I can confirm other things!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6E8cP4O90k

-His Up-B is much different from Mario's. Looks like it will be like Luigi's but without the big bang, so maybe it always does good damage?
- Up-B is at a very weird angle.
- When a streamer known as Hanayama streamed this game and unlocked Doc, he got beat a few times. He fell victim to Doc's Down Aerial, while it LOOKS like Mario's old one, it actually mirrored Luigi's when Hana got hit.

From this I can derive that Doc is old Mario + Doctor Mario's nuances from Melee + Luigi. Mario megamix.
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Pieman19
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Ugh.
His custom moves might be different as well.
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