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Topic Started: Feb 27 2014, 07:11 PM (57,074 Views)
Super Solver
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Vote for Katt. Do it. DO IT!
Were just arguing in circles at this point so I'll make this my final post on the issue and will drop it unless someone insist on calling me out specifically.

First lets get the RPG thing out of the way. Sure maybe my view is JRPG history is skewed. Of course BM wasn't the first in either hemisphere when it came to magic users in RPG's. But whenever someone brings up Magic Users in video games specifically, you can't tell me that BM is not one of the first if not the first thing that pops into your head in what defines the role. That was the point I was trying to make.

As for Cloud, the issue here isn't the fact that FF7 remake is the hot thing at Square-Enix right now, nor is it that I wanted someone like BM personally, or even that the FF rep is a FF7 character, my issue stems from the fact that with the pantheon of characters in the FF library to choose from, hell even from FF7 alone with characters like Tifa, Barret, Red XIII (shit I would be hyped if it was Red XIII), etc ,the one rep that was chosen was the one who is the brand's John Cena and in my personal taste, nothing kills my enthusiasm for an character announcement like this than overexposure which Cloud is the poster boy for. Cloud is just the most uninteresting and safest choice that could have chosen to appear as a guest and offers nothing interesting to the smash roster apart from being the FF rep and what that could mean further down the road. It just strikes me as a wasted opportunity for someone else and since everyone was making jokes and trolling about Cloud's appearing back in Brawl only serve to put the final nail in my non-hype coffin. I'm not mad, not even angry, just disappointed.
Edited by Super Solver, Nov 13 2015, 02:38 PM.
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Shoenin
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Wizardry did everything basically first yeah

Its also by far the hardest RPG series out there. Just play Bane of the Cosmic Forge(Wizardry 6), that game puts boots to asses, and that isnt even the hardest of the series.
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Super Solver
Nov 13 2015, 02:37 PM
Cloud is just the most uninteresting and safest choice that could have chosen to appear as a guest
That's exactly why he's in and that's exactly why Ryu is in too. Ryu is the most boring Street Fighter. He is the karate hobo you pick up to learn how to play the game.

However, he's also the character on the front of the box and unique to the world of Smash. Cloud might be another "anime swordsman" but he has the limit break system and the ability to blow minds simply by being in Smash at all. I'm still waiting for Sakurai to pop up on YouTube and go "Gotcha!"

Cloud doesn't really interest me as a character. I've never even played all the way through FF7 (I'll pick up the HD remake on PC). However, I can't deny that FF7 is one of the most iconic video game landmarks ever created. If being important is what it takes to enter the Smash Bros tournament, Cloud earned his ticket.

(It still should have been Terra.)
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Mr. Satan Overlay Face
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TOUGH  BOY
One of the bigger takeaways from this situation is regardless of Nintendo's console-to-console successes or failures, they're still a strong brand that people still want to partner with and use to promote their own stuff. I think we'll be seeing more companies leverage their character-focused IPs with Nintendo concepts and characters as we move forward, especially with the NX on the horizon.

I would say that Hudson Soft characters would be a good fit...but it's Konami, so, ya know. They'll just sit in the back pocket of people who don't care about games anymore.
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Clock
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just
they should have put john cena in, let's be real now
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Choco Nath
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Clock
Nov 13 2015, 03:20 PM
they should have put john cena in, let's be real now
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Shoenin
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There are more boring characters to play in SF than RYE-YOO
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Genesis Does!
Super Solver
Nov 13 2015, 02:37 PM
The one rep that was chosen was the one who is the brand's John Cena and in my personal taste, nothing kills my enthusiasm for an character announcement like this than overexposure which Cloud is the poster boy for. Cloud is just the most uninteresting and safest choice that could have chosen to appear as a guest and offers nothing interesting to the smash roster apart from being the FF rep and what that could mean further down the road.
It's almost like that's the point. If you're putting a character into a mascot fighter like Smash, you're putting in your poster boy. Before VGCW, I didn't know who the fuck Terra Branford or Barret Wallace was. I knew who Cloud Strife was before I really even knew what the hell Final Fantasy was. You show the just the Buster Sword to someone who's never even played Final Fantasy and they instantly know "Oh, that's from Final Fantasy, right?" He's iconic, hell, the dude's hair alone is iconic.

Cloud is the closest thing to a mascot Final Fantasy has that is actually a character ( so Moogles and Chocobos don't count). If a Final Fantasy character was going to be in Smash it was GOING to be him.

Plus, I have faith in Sakurai to make Cloud interesting and fun to play. I think the Limit System is gonna be a cool combination of Mac's KO Meter and Lucario's Aura system. He's not just gonna be another "anime swordsman."
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slashkamei
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Learning to make a good caw since 2k13
I just want to Omnislash someone

And if we don't get pixal overworld Cloud as an alt, I'll be disapoint, double points for Cloud in a dress
Edited by slashkamei, Nov 13 2015, 06:36 PM.
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Peptobislawl
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I have no shame
I JUST GOT A LEAK OF THE NEXT CHARICTER

SUPER LEGIT SPOILERS YO
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Karthulu
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Yeah, I'm a fan.
Yo how about that stage though?
Spear Pillar looking good in next gen.
Edited by Karthulu, Nov 14 2015, 08:29 AM.
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Cheer This Dan
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Big Hoss
Imwant there to be a Knight's of the Round summon that goes on for so long it lasts for the rest of the current match.
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Sciencejoe
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I'm not a Final Fantasy mark, but Cloud looks amazing and super well done.

This is a really good way to lead into that December direct, whatever it may contain. And while new characters are basically guaranteed, there's surely going to be stuff like new stages and maybe even new modes.

BRB, stocking up on Nintendo e-shop cards.

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Shadowmaster47X
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1000 YEARS!
Sciencejoe
Nov 14 2015, 11:20 AM
BRB, stocking up on Nintendo e-shop cards.
Ditto
Edited by Shadowmaster47X, Nov 14 2015, 01:30 PM.
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Forever Miku's loyal fan.
Shadowmaster47X
Nov 14 2015, 01:29 PM
Sciencejoe
Nov 14 2015, 11:20 AM
BRB, stocking up on Nintendo e-shop cards.
Ditto
Me three.
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