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VGCW Season 10 Character Evaluations
Topic Started: Jun 25 2015, 07:16 PM (11,475 Views)
Justin_Brett

Match of the Nights can be decided for bad reasons just as much good ones, I don't think that means Ebi is objectively better than Goemon in match quality.
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moogledrink
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Justin_Brett
Jul 2 2015, 07:30 PM
Match of the Nights can be decided for bad reasons just as much good ones, I don't think that means Ebi is objectively better than Goemon in match quality.
MOTN's are decided on a number of things not just match quality. Match quality, story telling, musical syncs, who is competing and memorable moments are all a part of what makes people choose thier match of the night.

Haggar/Goemon was the best in terms of match quality but Arino/Knuckles was also a great match that had a memorable moment (Catch continue, RKO through the table), musical sync (Drowning theme), good competitors (Arino is hugely popular and Knuckles was on a career resurgence), and story telling (Knuckles storyline with Dan, Arinos quest for a singles belt.) That's why it won MOTN.

There's no bad reasons to decide a MOTN. Entertainment in entertainment.
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Judging a Wrestler by how many MOTNs they have is like judging their singles careers on whether they have a tag title or not. It takes two to tango. And a lot of the time, there's more than one good match per night. Bison could have put on every single excellent match he's ever done and still have 0 MOTNs if something incredible was on the same night.
Goemon is a much better wrestler than Ebisumaru, and I think most people will agree with that statement. Goemon didn't have the luxury of working with Bison and Heavy or Bowser like Ebi did.
Either way the Mystical Ninja games are excellent and everyone should play them and seeing them being dissed makes me upset.
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The trek through the midcard continues, with a bunch of people I would never expect to be here for varying reasons. Also someone fix Dante's wiki, it's missing a match and I'm lazy.

25: Toad


24: Solid Snake


23: Dante


22: Flint


21: Dan Hibiki


Okay, so I put Dan as Up despite falling significantly at the end, but really, with all his plot and momentum, that's one loss that will not faze him.
Edited by PlasticAutomaton, Jul 2 2015, 11:59 PM.
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Potatosaurusrex
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What match is Dante's wiki page missing? I must know.
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Potatosaurusrex
Jul 2 2015, 11:59 PM
What match is Dante's wiki page missing? I must know.
The fatal four way with Ebisu, Jensen, and Bison.
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Rude_Semprini
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Dan took down the Champion in a one-on-one fight. He's already capable of jumping straight back into the title scene while Sabin is champion.

Dante has lost three times out of seven matches, and has never looked weak in any of them. He made a far stronger effort against Scorpion than most people did barring Duke, Drac and Snake, his loss in the Triple Threat was due to it being an incredibly weapons heavy Extreme Rules match, and his loss to Travis was really close as well. I don't think he's trending down at all, considering more people will be excited to see Dante now they know he isn't just going to streamroll every single wrestler he comes across like he has for most of his career so far.

He's just...you know, gonna steamroll MOST of them. Cause Fuck Them.
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I was a little surprised to see Snake was Trending Down, but I guess if it's based off W/L then it makes sense. Personally I think Snake has been the hottest he's ever been in his career, ever since the matches with Illidan he's switched from 'member of the old guard' to 'featured a lot because he's putting on some really good performances and people love getting behind him.' I guess the mini-feud with Kanji cooled him off a bit, but that was just putting over a new star and he still seems like he's kept his reputation as one of the stronger guys on the card

Flint VS Groose for the casual title is a match I'd really like to see too
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Cheer This Dan
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Toad was THE BEST last season. According to my calculations it seems this parameter had not changed and he is still indeed THE BEST.

Snake is the pre-champ Sami Zayn of VGCW, continuously puts on incredible performances but just can't win the big one. He has the crowd in his hand now more than ever, his match with Scorps shows he clearly has the potential, he has to shake off his losses and start climbing that ladder once again.

Dante's taken a downfall but to be fair it's not going to be easy to keep up with his almost flawless previous season, a close loss to champion Scorpion and Travis doesn't hurt his credibility much, while it's generally accepted triple threats aren't exactly consistent. He's still very much a threat but for now his main focus is likely to be on the tag division rather than singles.

Flint didn't do too much last season, however he has continued his penchant of being a solid wrestler that seemingly has the ability to tap into beast mode at any moment.

Dan managed to raise his stake a lot last season, his match against Arino is a MOTY contender, he got revenge on Bison for his Great Tournament loss by reversing Bison's roll up, beat Sabin opwho is the current champion in a one on one match fairly convincingly.
Dan only really faltered at the very end losing the impromptu tag match and getting speared through a table in the championship match by Sabin neither of which hurt Dan's credibility but the latter did cause his position to drop a lot.
If Dan can shake off his losses and continue his strong singles performances he should be able to get back in the main picture again in no time, with the Dragons being champions hopefully he'll be able to join them at the top too with the ever elusive triple crown.
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PlasticAutomaton
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And that's why Dante is trending down at the moment. He's not the unstoppable juggernaut he looked like during the first half. He's... human again.

Snake is just weird in the fact that no one ever expects him to actually win anything. It's almost like Waluigi in that it's just what Snake does.
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PlasticAutomaton
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Almost out of the midcard, now.

20: Duke Nukem


19: Gary Oak


18: Ebisumaru


17: Shinya Arino


16: M. Bison


Next we enter the upper card.
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Prozach
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NOPE.
Based on actual W/L record, some of these guys could be doing better. However, on actual momentum I'd say Gary, Arino and Bison are in the primes of their careers, while Duke is still considered an actual threat as well. Ebi...Ebi's gotta do something amazing fast to prove he's more than a single joke wrestler. I don't wanna talk about firings too much and whatnot but his name could be brought up soonish I'd feel if fan support continues to dwindle and fall like it has.
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Bison just has serious untapped plot potential with about 3 different sources to work from. His VGCW run has seen him very reserved and I'd like to see more of his large ham tendencies to come out in the future. I also love that he is Face in VGCW as opposed to what he is in canon. He is the opposite of what Guile is and it makes him feel different to his canon source but not take so much out that he's unrecognisable. There's a couple of others who would also love plot but I can't really say any of them deserve to be in front of Bison right now.
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PlasticAutomaton
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Bison is best compared to Jade in that he's a five star machine who has been criminally underpushed since day 1. This man needs something to do.
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MaxOfFewTrades

Bison has never done anything Face like in his entire career, hes at best neutral. And I can guarantee that if/when he gets plot he will be 100% heel.
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