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Topic Started: Jul 29 2015, 03:07 PM (57,512 Views)
Mosaique
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I don't want to see Zangief used to give Mika heat and tossed away like garbage when people are starting to like him.

Also, we could've used segment related to Ganondorf and his briefcase, Travis Touchdown tracking down Shadaloo, Dr. Wily and Casual Division, Dracula making apperance, etc. Those three segments related to Shadaloo could've been condensed into a SINGLE segment.
Edited by Mosaique, Jun 16 2016, 06:25 PM.
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Gief has been pulling so much good work in-ring that he's at such a good state of likeableness and i wish him to stay and be rewarded for his work, he grew a lot on me and his one of my favorite, don't toss him aside please.
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Jun 16 2016, 06:11 PM
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Jun 16 2016, 05:21 PM
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Jun 16 2016, 04:54 PM

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Basically this. I ponder if it's not too late to deviate the course planned and instead of risking Gief's streak to someone who won't benefit from it as much due to the difference in rosters, we could book Gief in a big match for the curtain jerk and put Mika in his corner or something similar. It would allow the two to be involved in their own match and would provide equal if not better character development depending on how it's written. This is all just a what-if/suggestion, of course.
Seconding this.

While I doubt plans will change, I'm hoping that Mika/Gief doesn't happen for all these reasons.

In addition, we might only get one or two more intergender matches due to the death of the servers. I doubt TOH has too many more female CAWs on his console, and likewise to Bryn. I don't want to see Gief get cucked out of the best thing he's had going for him in a loong time for a novelty match and for someone who couldn't really do anything with the rub.
Oh yeah, good point. I forgot to consider that.
Thanks 2K.

Though... I gotta agree that Zangief's been doing rather well lately, and he deserves a contender shot or something.
Edited by Kingault, Jun 16 2016, 06:39 PM.
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Seconding this.

While I doubt plans will change, I'm hoping that Mika/Gief doesn't happen for all these reasons.

In addition, we might only get one or two more intergender matches due to the death of the servers. I doubt TOH has too many more female CAWs on his console, and likewise to Bryn. I don't want to see Gief get cucked out of the best thing he's had going for him in a loong time for a novelty match and for someone who couldn't really do anything with the rub.
Oh yeah, good point. I forgot to consider that.
Thanks 2K.

Though... I gotta agree that Zangief's been doing rather well lately, and he deserves a contender shot or something.
See, and the issue with Mika/Gief is that you can't put Gief in a #1 contenders match at End Game if he is having a match against Mika. Once again, Gief gets nothing from this angle and has a chance to lose all his momentum to someone who can't use it. Gief has been in line for a title shot for a while, and rather than jerk with Mika, should jerk with someone with enough momentum for a #1 contenders match.
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Jun 16 2016, 06:44 PM
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Oh yeah, good point. I forgot to consider that.
Thanks 2K.

Though... I gotta agree that Zangief's been doing rather well lately, and he deserves a contender shot or something.
See, and the issue with Mika/Gief is that you can't put Gief in a #1 contenders match at End Game if he is having a match against Mika. Once again, Gief gets nothing from this angle and has a chance to lose all his momentum to someone who can't use it. Gief has been in line for a title shot for a while, and rather than jerk with Mika, should jerk with someone with enough momentum for a #1 contenders match.
Just becuase she's on a different show, doesn't mean she couldn't beifit from beating Gief. She could end Gief's streak and go back to WVGCW talking about how she did what no one on the male roster could do. And I don't think loosing one match will end all of Gief's momentum.
Edited by Rhonne, Jun 16 2016, 06:52 PM.
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Out of everyone that could be considered for it I'd probably give the End Game jerk to Travis.

And like what GirthIgnorer said, I'd really like to see the Casual Championship be defended every episode. Now that VGCW is bi-weekly the already sparse title matches have been spread out so thinly that Drac has literally only had 1 straight up title match without plot bullshit and it was against a guy who was given it without winning a contenders match. Meanwhile, Wily is on the run of his career yet seems more absorbed with Robotnik than actually defending the title. There was straight up no interaction between him and Guybrush, I almost forgot he was the contender in the first place.

If you have the title defended every week it would greatly help more midcarders get the important screentime they're really needing. You could argue that the more frequent title changes would damage the titles prestige, but at the same time Reds reign is the most celebrated ever and he did nothing but defend it constantly. Long reigns would mean much more, more peoples favorites would get gold to their name, and it would just create a much more enjoyable show in general because you could always tune in looking forward to a title match.

Plus, it'd create two matches every single episode that have meaning to them. One, a contenders match (That could be varied between singles, multimans, gimmicks, etc.), and the title match itself. This idea has been thrown around for a while now but I honestly feel like this is the time to do it.

There's really no reason not to do it.
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Jun 16 2016, 06:57 PM
Out of everyone that could be considered for it I'd probably give the End Game jerk to Travis.

And like what GirthIgnorer said, I'd really like to see the Casual Championship be defended every episode. Now that VGCW is bi-weekly the already sparse title matches have been spread out so thinly that Drac has literally only had 1 straight up title match without plot bullshit and it was against a guy who was given it without winning a contenders match. Meanwhile, Wily is on the run of his career yet seems more absorbed with Robotnik than actually defending the title. There was straight up no interaction between him and Guybrush, I almost forgot he was the contender in the first place.

If you have the title defended every week it would greatly help more midcarders get the important screentime they're really needing. You could argue that the more frequent title changes would damage the titles prestige, but at the same time Reds reign is the most celebrated ever and he did nothing but defend it constantly. Long reigns would mean much more, more peoples favorites would get gold to their name, and it would just create a much more enjoyable show in general because you could always tune in looking forward to a title match.

Plus, it'd create two matches every single episode that have meaning to them. One, a contenders match (That could be varied between singles, multimans, gimmicks, etc.), and the title match itself. This idea has been thrown around for a while now but I honestly feel like this is the time to do it.

There's really no reason not to do it.
Every 2nd episode even would be nice.
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Because all titles are locked down to min-PPVs, it's "show up every 2 or 3 months, have a match, and leave" The quality of contenders didn't help the main belt. All belts would have more meaning if it had more defenses especially when the current format is biweekly.

Yes, I'm aware that both Groose and Wily were in numerous tag matches during their reign, but none of those matches had any effect in their reign.

I'm just repeating myself. See here.
Edited by Mosaique, Jun 16 2016, 07:04 PM.
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I might not do it every episode or every other episode but definitely in the future, have more defenses, please.
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Ninja!
There's more to titles then just defenses.
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doomknight66
Jun 16 2016, 07:07 PM
There's more to titles then just defenses.
Does that mean we should have literally no traditional contenders for the main belt for the entire season though? It basically put the title scene on lockdown which I thought we tried to prevent since the Red/Scorpion situation.
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Okay, on this whole Gief/Mika thing. There's not much I can say that hasn't already been said, so I'll keep most of this brief.

The actual angle itself has been fine and I've been enjoying it. There was never anything wrong with having Mika take a trip to VGCW and hang around Gief. Gief potentially losing his streak to someone who wouldn't really benefit from it and then potentially getting tossed aside because of it? That is what puts a bad taste in my mouth on this whole thing. As others have said, Gief has managed to be really fun and look like a bit of a viable contender lately. I'd hate to see him just get tossed aside and not get rewarded for his recent success.

There's also the issue of Mika not appearing much on WV since this angle began. It makes sense for her to be appearing on WV less because of what she's doing on VGCW, that's fine. But she has only had a grand total of three matches in the near seven months since getting called up, and only one since getting involved with Gief. While it's too late to fix this issue, I feel that something crosspromotional like this needs to be handled better if it's attempted again. Cause it can be done well. Just look at the crosspromotional stuff with Duke, Mama, and Morrigan, for instance. I think that was handled perfectly in terms of how much Duke showed up on both shows.
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Jun 16 2016, 07:12 PM
doomknight66
Jun 16 2016, 07:07 PM
There's more to titles then just defenses.
Does that mean we should have literally no traditional contenders for the main belt for the entire season though? It basically put the title scene on lockdown which I thought we tried to prevent since the Red/Scorpion situation.
Let's not start putting words in people'ls mouths now. I'm saying there's more to a title then just title defenses themselves, theres the challenger and the champion and what this match means to them. with someone like Phoenix and Drac theres a ton of potential that can be done with it with their shared history.

The only real issue I see was Drac/Barret not happening right after it got interrupted and holding the title for 10 episodes. I'm glad Phoenix is getting what is probably his one last big push of his career on the biggest stage of all.
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Go home Mika.
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Jun 16 2016, 06:44 PM
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Oh yeah, good point. I forgot to consider that.
Thanks 2K.

Though... I gotta agree that Zangief's been doing rather well lately, and he deserves a contender shot or something.
See, and the issue with Mika/Gief is that you can't put Gief in a #1 contenders match at End Game if he is having a match against Mika. Once again, Gief gets nothing from this angle and has a chance to lose all his momentum to someone who can't use it. Gief has been in line for a title shot for a while, and rather than jerk with Mika, should jerk with someone with enough momentum for a #1 contenders match.
I wasn't factoring the vs. Mika thing when I mentioned the contender shot, but you could just put him in a contender match before Endgame for a title match next season, I guess.
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