| Season 12 Discussion; VGCW: World Tour! | |
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| WhytePanther | Apr 19 2016, 09:27 AM Post #1546 |
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Remember last year when we were excited for this?
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Well, he'd LIKE to be a god guy. And for a while he was, but still got shut down by Nightmare Gabe. I know what you meant, but that's too good to point out. |
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| Kingault | Apr 19 2016, 10:33 AM Post #1547 |
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Nah, I know he's technically a heel, but by true heel I meant like Guile/etc that you'd boo. Thinking about it, the only times Ganondorf actually did get me to boo him were due to beating my picks for some matches, and that's not a heel-only thing. Well, that was that time he attacked Duke post-match... Edited by Kingault, Apr 19 2016, 10:36 AM.
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| ancara22 | Apr 19 2016, 11:04 AM Post #1548 |
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I played The Game and got stuck with Dunn for a month.
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If you really wanted nuclear heat with Ganon, then after the VGCW title match between Barret and Drac (if Barret wins), have him just appear with the briefcase and then threaten Barret with "I can cash this on you at any time I so choose. Enjoy your reign whilst it lasts, for when you least expect it, I shall strike and take what is rightfully mine like one would take a rattle from a child..." Even if it doesn't work, at the least it'll ensure that Big Match Wallace is going to be left feeling like he's the EDBW Hardcore Belt holder by the end of the Night. |
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| Introbulus | Apr 19 2016, 11:10 AM Post #1549 |
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He might be a heel in terms of his character type, and he might be a villain by trade, but as far as the VGCW TOHME writers go, he's more of a gatekeeper and stone wall than any real 'villian'. The closest he's come is a rather brutal burial of Zangief, and that's Season 1 levels of villiany. Compared to other villains, he hasn't done anything like: - Rip through countless backstage opponents (Mr. L) - Transform a wrestler into a bloodthirsty monster (Dracula) - Take over the show by force on the crowning night of the Great Tournament (Dracula) - Steal the wish meant to bring a hero back to life to become a god (Kefka) - Orchestrate a move meant to boost neglected wrestlers into a backstage group of thugs, and pin it all on the founder of that group (Guile) - Turned multiple wrestlers into robot slaves (The Practice, mitigated somewhat because of a lack of lasting effects) - Stood complacent as a fan favorite was turned into a monster (Protoman) - Killed/banished/removed a wrestler (Nightmare Gabe, Gameshark) - Interrupted a hotly-anticipated match and directly insulted the crowd for their rage at his actions (say what you will, it definitely generated a ton of Bison heat.) Basically, Ganondorf may be a monster in the ring and lack scrupels in his efforts, but he's never done anything to truly distinguish himself as a VGCW Grand Villian. |
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| Kingault | Apr 19 2016, 11:29 AM Post #1550 |
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Yeah, that's how I feel about him. He might categorized as a heel in VGCW and as a villain in his home series, but he hasn't done much bad here compared to other heels, apart from that brutal breakup with Zangief. Even then, they seem to have made up since they tagged again in that one tournament. Heck, Ganondorf even tried to defeat Nightmare Gabe, though for his own reasons and not to save everyone. Now, as someone else stated, if he were to cash in on Barret if he beats Dracula, or later on... Even then, I dunno. He'd just be using it at a smart moment. It's not like he's pulling a Summoners or anything. We'll have to wait and see. Man, it's funny how it's hard to truly boo someone in VGCW, when he's the biggest evil in his home series. Kinda like with Bowser, but he's not even true evil in the Mario series, apart from the supplemental materials(turning the inhabitants of the Mushroom Kingdom into those bricks that Mario breaks). Edit: Man, that was longer than I expected. Edited by Kingault, Apr 19 2016, 11:29 AM.
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| Captain Rodriguez | Apr 19 2016, 01:50 PM Post #1551 |
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Fun fact: Ganon was planned to take over VGCW after the Great Tournament but Bazza elected to use Dracula instead because he felt Ganon had already been receiving enough exposure as it was. |
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| Triple Factorial | Apr 19 2016, 02:11 PM Post #1552 |
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Jobber
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There was also the alternate ending scenes for EG9 that seem to suggest that, had he beaten Nightmare Gabe, Ganon would've transformed Gary in some way and likely become the main villain of Season X. |
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| Fireball Spam | Apr 19 2016, 02:20 PM Post #1553 |
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IIRC that interview Bazza gave didn't name anyone, but yeah, it's likely that Ganon was the original villain. Makes that "three-time champion" line change quite a bit in context, doesn't it? While Ganon has never been a Season Villain, he has been quite a dick in VGCW. In Season 0/1 he tried to break Ezio's foot for seemingly no reason, and in Season 5 he treated Zangief like utter trash once the stream of victories stopped being constant. Ganon may have achieved his goal of being a full Heel had he crushed Octodad as intended. The King of Evil's match with Zangief might have also buried the poor Ruskie in a way that made the crowd never have solid faith in him ever again, but that can also be blamed on THQuality and Ganon's sudden win after getting super brutalized. In Season 6, Ganon chose an "I Quit" Match specifically to humiliate Duke Nukem and to try to thoroughly crush his pride and the egotistic confidence that makes Duke so likeable. If Ganon won at End Game, that may very well have been the end of Duke. Sure he had started to get the ball rolling in that season, but before that Duke wasn't exactly thought highly of aside from what felt like a distant miracle by Season 5. Ganondorf hasn't been an iron fist villain yet, but he's been a giant prick a number of times. Anyway, shifting gears to the present, I think the BLU Rogues are going to try stealing the MITB from Ganon tonight. His loss to Edgeworth last show no doubt makes him look very vulnerable, and the pirates are probably going to pounce because of it. |
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| Jayarrpee | Apr 19 2016, 03:01 PM Post #1554 |
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epic maymay
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Huh. I always wondered how Season 10 would have panned out if Beast Ganon had stopped a Gaben. |
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| Kingault | Apr 19 2016, 03:16 PM Post #1555 |
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Dang, that would have been cool to see. Were those alternate EG9 ending scenes ever shown, or did Bazza just describe them? I only remember Bazza showing the alternate scene for if SSJ Nappa had defeated Majin Vegeta, and when I asked Bazza back in S9/10, he said he stopped showing alternate scenes. Eh, I'm happy with what we got. He may be a dick, but Gary's GM reign has been great. ...Wait, by "transformed Gary", are we being literal or in the sense of "Ganondorf saving Gary's sorry ass made him realize how much of a dick he's been"? Edit: Yeah, I imagine that the BLU Rogues are going to try something today... Maybe sneak up on Ganondorf as he's preparing backstage and snag the case. Edited by Kingault, Apr 19 2016, 03:18 PM.
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| HereComesTheChief | Apr 19 2016, 05:51 PM Post #1556 |
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To Each Future
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| Bandit | Apr 19 2016, 05:56 PM Post #1557 |
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| Pieman19 | Apr 19 2016, 05:58 PM Post #1558 |
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Ugh.
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We got rumbles, folks, you better be tuned in! |
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| AaronTheBaron | Apr 19 2016, 06:06 PM Post #1559 |
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Yo, it's me. It's me. It's A.T.B.
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JUSTIN ROBERTS IS THE MASTERMIND. |
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| Shoenin | Apr 19 2016, 06:06 PM Post #1560 |
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Justin Robers jobs out Team Rocket just by saying something |
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