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BWA Season 2 Discussion Thread; SEASON 2 EDITION
Topic Started: May 10 2016, 09:45 PM (10,440 Views)
BelmontLegend
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Oh yeah I totally welcome feedback. Hell, even when the show was still going I was aiming to make Season 3 super different and now that it's gonna come to fruition I'm gonna show you what ideas I have very soon!
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JNT
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Okay, I'm not going to try to start a fight here or anything, but it is a valid criticism that BWA had a shitton of in-jokes and incomprehensible at times plot that made it really hard to get into. Hell, one of the season two feuds was between a self-insert that was literally Groose in a suit, and whatever the fuck Sponge was. And then there was the what.. 8-10 minute plot that was literally just scenes from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Or Gamerman Gymnius' entire existence. If you haven't been watching since Arena, it's easy to go "what the hell is this and why should I care?" and tune out.

And it's fine if there are some in-jokes that not everyone will get. But they should be used more like the Sombrero of Destiny. Yes, it was pulled from an Arena running joke. But it was also parseable by a newbie, since even if you didn't really know why everyone wanted this silly hat, you did realize it was a prize worth fighting over.

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I watched all of Season 1 but couldn't get into it. I'll give it another try in Season 3, but I hope you make it less alienating for people who didn't watch ARENA, and cut down on the memes in plot. "smh tbh fam" is not acceptable dialogue.


As someone that was on board doing plot for S1 and S2 I welcome the feedback. Not so much the tidbit of "acceptable dialogue", but I want to pretend you meant well.

I agree on the relying of memes and references for plot and also the Arena on-going jokes; it is something that obviously people that weren't there just can't understand. It became very obvious.

If I'm back on board for S3, I would love to keep hearing about what things people like and what others could be worked on.
Edited by JNT, Apr 1 2017, 02:38 AM.
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PFlare
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I had a hard time getting into Arena myself- for obvious reasons. However, I DID start to enjoy it in small doses here and there, and larger ones as time went on- I'm PSYCHED to see Patty back, ideally. But there were some issues that kept me from enjoying the show fully.

-The in-joke wrestlers/self-inserts. Having someone in a managerial position like Belmont is perfectly fine, I had no problem with that. But having people actually wrestling, like Potato? That just turned me off entirely. It smacked of favoritism and general preference- you might not have intended it at all, but that's how it came off to me. I'd love it if you would keep any further 'real-life' people to just talkers, and not wrestlers, since that kinda ruins the show when they show up. (I'd honestly prefer no real-life people at all, much like how WVGCW has it, but I understand that just may not be in the cards for you- people like their John Madden even if I hate him.)

I'm not sure what the deal is with the Sombrero, honestly, and it's a bit nutty for my taste, but I can deal.

I feel like yeah, too many memes and references for plot was a bad thing- if largely because of how blatant they were. I feel like there's plenty of ways to write in references and memes so that someone in the know could catch them, while someone who had no clue would just be able to take the words at face value without feeling like they missed anything.

THAT SAID.

Having something other than a belt as a reward is good.

I love the anime. Keep the anime. The anime helps set you apart. It's great.

I also love how non-serious the plot is in BWA at all times. There's no world threats, no crazy villains. It's just wrasslin' problems at the worst. That lightheartedness is something no other fed has at the moment, and I appreciate that immensely. Just...so long as it doesn't get TOO madcap wacky, I guess.

Like I said, BWA was something I was only just kind of leaning towards when it ended, so apologies if it seems like there's more bad than good. It seems like you guys are well on your way to fixing the show up for Season 3, so I await with baited breath!

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HereComesTheChief
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We're baaaaaaaaaack!
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JNT
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THE BIG DOG IS HERE.
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Nap1400
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That 2k17 match was just a preview of what's to come.
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BringBack1996
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This is why Link isn't on the main BWA roster. He'd be the next Scorpion if we let him loose there.
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Apr 23 2017, 06:35 PM
That 2k17 match was just a preview of what's to come.
I recorded that match three times. I specifically went with that one because it was a fucking mess. You're welcome.
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After the initail rush, I took a moment to tally the votes and see who are the fifteen front runners so far!

Male:
1. John Madden
2. Julius Belmont
3. Tien
4. Kano
5. Biff Slamkovich
6. JC Denton
7. Beowulf
8. Team Flare Grunt
9. FOE
10. Bomberman
11. Wonder Red
12. Bo Jackson
13. Greninja
14. John Freeman
15. Coach Z

Female:
1. Dark Magician Girl
2. Patty Wagon
3. Lyra
4. Risky Boots
5. Crystal
6. Sailor Mercury
7. Fio Germi
8. Hilda
9. Isabelle
10. Tomoko Kuroki
11. Dizzy
12. Candece
13. Tostada
14. Cynthia
15. Excellen Browning/Black Orchid/Agrias (Tie)
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HereComesTheChief
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giygasattack
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NESS NESS NESS NESS NESS
I barely stopped grinning throughout that entire show last night, it was glorious.
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DrMarble1
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WE ARE ON DAY TWO OF VOTING! Here are the updated Front runners (Red means they werent on the list last time)

Male:
1. John Madden
2. Julius Belmont
3. Tien
4. Kano
5. Biff Slamkovich
6. JC Denton
7. Bomberman
8. Beowulf
9. Team Flare Grunt
10. FOE
11. Bo Jackson
12. Wonder Red
13. Greninja
14. Coach Z
15. Mr Foster

Fallen Off the list: John Freeman

Female:
1. Dark Magician Girl
2. Patty Wagon
3. Lyra
4. Risky Boots
5. Sailor Mercury
6. Crystal
7. Fio Germi
8. Hilda
9. Isabelle
10. Tomoko Kuroki
11. Dizzy
12. Candece
13. Cynthia
14. Tostada
15. Palutena

Fallen off the List: Excellen Browning, Black Orchid and Agrias
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Karthulu
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Piggybacking off of DrMarble here, here are the Top 20 for each side.

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Sciencejoe
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It feels good to have the show back. Some quality 2K14 matches and the 2K17 ladder match was hopefully taken as a sign that says we can move forward without regrets.

As someone who also wrote some stuff for ARENA + Seasons 1 and 2 of BWA, I can kind of see the whole "too many in-jokes" thing. I don't think the way some characters were developed in those shows is gonna change, but not every episode is going to have you asking questions like:


  • Why is Groose in a suit going out with Hatsune Miku? And why Groose now named "Potato"?
  • Why are there three Chris Benoits doing medical work?
  • What the fuck is happening?!

I still think BWA should have some goofy elements (and it surely will), but it being less reliant on previously established things from people who played ARENA would probably be for the best. Characters should probably stay the same, though, at least in the case of the original character not having much of a canon personality. I feel like that'd be a disservice to the person who originally wrote for them.

Also, to everyone who voted for Team Flare Grunt to return: thanks!
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I'm legit surprised Rouge is top 20. I didn't have a problem with her, but I thought people hated her.
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