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VGCW Season 12 Character Evaluations
Topic Started: Aug 8 2016, 10:15 PM (12,423 Views)
Hexagon Heat
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Potatosaurusrex
Sep 7 2016, 08:17 AM
what was the point of taking the briefcase away from ganondorf if he got cucked out of his end game match anyway


Captain Rodriguez
Sep 7 2016, 10:20 AM
Or rather, what was the point of getting it back in time for End Game?


I'd guess the plan was for him to cash-in if Dracula won.
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Introbulus
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Hexagon Heat
Sep 7 2016, 09:25 PM
Potatosaurusrex
Sep 7 2016, 08:17 AM
what was the point of taking the briefcase away from ganondorf if he got cucked out of his end game match anyway


Captain Rodriguez
Sep 7 2016, 10:20 AM
Or rather, what was the point of getting it back in time for End Game?


I'd guess the plan was for him to cash-in if Dracula won.
That would've worked.

I guess having a face win only to have a heel crush him moments later would've been a pretty sorry way to end the season.

But Drac v Ganondorf would've meant either ending the streak, or immediately continuing it against a well-known indominable wall.

Though, we could have had all of that anyway without the briefcase heist subplot - so the question remains, was there any point behind the Blu Rogues doing what fhey did this season?
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PlasticAutomaton
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Spirit of Justice is coming today so here's a quick update.

Gary Oak


I really want to cover Guile and Goemon in the same update, so that's all for now.
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AntUnderTheMoon
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I want GM Oak to be what ultimately takes down the Sons of the Patriots. It would be such a ridiculous thing to imagine which is fitting in how Gary achieved that General Manager position 3 seasons ago.

If Gary does eventually give up the GM position (which I wouldn't want), what role would he have next? Gary is best as an occasional wrestler and I don't think I can imagine Gary going back to just managing a single wrestler.
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Introbulus
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The only appropriate way for Gary to be taken down from his GM position would be to have a contender beat 4 other wrestlers, then to challenge him directly for the title.

So, basically another Great Tournament, but with Gary waiting at the top for a challenger.

Which, frankly, would be great.
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AaronTheBaron
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Yo, it's me. It's me. It's A.T.B.
Nah, Gary should lose it via a coup.

But would he be the Captain, the Duke, or the Contessa?
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AaronTheBaron
Sep 8 2016, 11:17 AM
Nah, Gary should lose it via a coup.

But would he be the Captain, the Duke, or the Contessa?
The third one. The first two are already employed.
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Hexagon Heat
Sep 7 2016, 09:25 PM
Potatosaurusrex
Sep 7 2016, 08:17 AM
what was the point of taking the briefcase away from ganondorf if he got cucked out of his end game match anyway


Captain Rodriguez
Sep 7 2016, 10:20 AM
Or rather, what was the point of getting it back in time for End Game?


I'd guess the plan was for him to cash-in if Dracula won.
I asked TOH about it, and it was due week-by-week booking combined with limited time being available to work on each plot and such. It's understandable.

Oh, and the failed Ganondorf cash-in after teleportation was because all the ring escape-related scenes involving the wrestler going in the direction of the ramp, which wouldn't really have worked with Ganondorf's intro. You can thank 2k14 for that, I guess.


As for Gary... I've greatly enjoyed him as GM, and I look forward to see how he'd react to what's been going on under his nose.
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AntUnderTheMoon
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I want to see what you have to say about Guile since he's going to be in the next batch and I think that's a good time as ever for me to share my own thoughts on Guile leaving.
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PlasticAutomaton
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Yeah, I'm gonna throw together my Goemon/Groose/Guile post tonight..

Spoilers: Guile can always be thankful he wasn't as bad off as Goemon was.
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PlasticAutomaton
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So it turns out I am a filthy liar. (Also Spirit of Justice is really good, you guys.) Groose and Guile later today. Actually.

Goemon


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Justin_Brett

I'm not gonna say that Goemon shouldn't have been fired - objectively that was the right decision, and I'm sure it wasn't done lightly. But enough people have changed their standing in this new era that it seems unfair to blame it all on him, even if he wasn't a fan favorite.
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AntUnderTheMoon
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I like Goemon, but I understand why he was being treated like a loser since Goemon has not really achieved any substantial success in his VGCW career, got a lot of heat despite being a face, and wasn’t really improving as a performer. So Bison offing him like that, while harsh, is something I can understand and I ultimately agree with the decision to cut him (let this be said that I am glad Goemon is getting one last match to prove himself).
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Groose
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Introbulus
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Goemon...

I remember when Goemon first appeared on the show. The thing that made the biggest splash, apart from his horrifying anime face, was the fairly hype "GANBARE" in his song. He had an appropriate high-flying moveset, but other than that, he barely had any fans, and never really shined all that brightly.

If I had to chalk it up to anything, I'd say his obscurity is to blame for his lukewarm following. Mystic Ninja fans are few and far between, and he hasn't really got any meme magic backing him up either. All he really ever had was his face, his song, and his performance.

I have to hand it to thr TOH era for trying though - building on his connection to Goemon and anime was a move that sparked some life in him...but as a main character, his personality was always doomed to feel a bit flat, and without much direction...I can totally understand why he's being retired.

It's a shame though, I would have been all aboard for a trans-Pacific partnership between him and Guile.

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Oh, Groose snuck in while I wasn't looking.

Haven't got much to say about Groose to be honest. His early loss to Asura was the high point of Asura's season, and the rest of Groose's season left something to be desired.

Don't get me wrong, he's still very respectable and still very entertaining, but match-wise and plot-wise, he needs to get something going again, before he starts slipping into a pit of irrelevancy.
Edited by Introbulus, Sep 13 2016, 03:26 PM.
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