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#1 Contender Prediction Thread; Who will be the next opponent to go for the belt?
Topic Started: Sep 7 2013, 07:53 PM (94,642 Views)
FoxyStalin
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On the one hand...DK would have had a deathgrip on the belt, the only Midcarder I could see beating him 1v1 would be Barret, and we all know how belts are Barret's kryptonite...
On the other hand...Diddy Kong wouldn't have been brought in...

Makes you think.
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goon
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Goemon VS Vegeta & Groose VS Bison are definitely my top 2 wanted matches going into Season 10
Edited by goon, Mar 2 2015, 06:12 AM.
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Rude_Semprini
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Can't expect to bully a dictator and get away with it unscathed, Groose. You're out of your league.
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Cancer DK did kind of suck, he really only made it to the end of that match because Zangief rescued him at one point.
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FoxyStalin
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Disregarding the main title discussion for a slight, who do you think is up for Casual? Right now the only one I can say has a clear shot is Flint, his two singles matches for the season ended in him winning, even though one was at the second to last episode and the other was way early.

Flint is in the same problem of, well, all the midcard might has been wrapped up in their tag teams. Like damn, Both the Birds, Barret and Flint, Heavy in the bullies, I'd suggest Break but people are want to put him into the main scene, which seems odd to me since Travis styled on him and people are wanting him in casual.

Snake would be a good toss into Casual, since he's so inconsistant, if we're not setting him into Main title which people still want to do, and I personally wouldn't be opposed to.
Perhaps we could toss Snake against DK, the two popular contenders that have recently sufered a loss and DK is robust enough so that if Snake conquors that dong shaped mountain he'll have definietly earned his shot despite his inconsistant record, While DK is beast enough so that a loss to DK doesn't hurt you too much. Unless you're Goemon.

Speaking of! He's another like Break that people are wanting to put into the main belt scene, but I'm not exactly seeing his potential to hang onto the thing. But, that argument has been made and I'll agree that he's probably not topcard, but we don't have enough singles matches to get a good read on him.

There's always Groose and Bison but upon deliberation both of them need to stay out of any sort of contenders match for a while unless The bullies get a Co-op shot and Groose squeezes his way into that (because he totally would show up just to grab the glory.)


Either way
Casual


Main


Groose vs Bison is still a match I want to see though.

EDIT: Goddamnit I set out on this post to muse about the casual scene and wound up rehashing my thoughts on the main belt.
Edited by FoxyStalin, Mar 2 2015, 12:30 PM.
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DongyKonga
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Breakman is an iffy fit for casuals. He's a 2K14 VGCW champ (something only him, Gaben, Haggar and Scorps can claim) but won his title via Elimination Chamber (which Kefka has proven can be pretty wonky), and his defense was against Wily. He was a main eventer but whether or not he was champion calibur is a different story.

I'm not sure where to place him on the card. He has wins over AVGN (twice), Heavy, Air Man, Sonic and Wily, and losses to Guile, Travis, Dandroid, and Scoop Man. I'm pretty sure that's every singles match he's had in the past year or so.

I think he could fit into Casuals. Dan, Knuckles, Groose and the like have proven they can take on tough competitors. I have no doubt in my mind Proto could definitely win that title. I'm a little sick of Double Champs right now, to be honest. When the Mavericks drop the belts, he should. But right now Break should focus on Co-Op.

Also it's really weird to think that Proto Man has one of the better chances of becoming the first triple crown champ. I think it's between him and Eggman, and maaaaaybe Vegeta (who is another iffy pick for Casuals)
Edited by DongyKonga, Mar 2 2015, 02:08 PM.
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FreewayKnight
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I still say we need to test Layton to see if he's ready to aim for the Casual belt. Throw Octodad and Eggman at him and see what happens.
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Mar 2 2015, 02:05 PM
Also it's really weird to think that Proto Man has one of the better chances of becoming the first triple crown champ. I think it's between him and Eggman, and maaaaaybe Vegeta (who is another iffy pick for Casuals)
Don't forget about :waaa:
It's going to happen
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Rude_Semprini
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Kefka has won his last two singles fights as well.

I reckon he's due a shot.
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Jeez we've had so many members of the midcard break out to aim for the main belt, haven't we? The casual pool just looks a lot smaller than it did before.

If Arino gets another singles win, I'd throw him in the pot. The guy had a horrible season due to the Great Tournament putting him up against nearly impossible opponents and Waluigi (and Goemon's a jerk sometimes I guess). There's a few names I'd like to see have matches before we go casual with them, though:

Wario
Dr. Eggman
Kefka
Adam Jensen
Travis Touchdown
Sonic

All of them I feel either need a chance due to not getting many singles/having a new lease on life (Wario, Eggman, Travis), having fallen from grace a bit and needing the pick-me-up (Jensen, Sonic), or being Kefka (Kefka). And the #Masterplan of Eggman being the first triple crown still makes me excited, especially after getting his first win in a long, long time.
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Yeah there's a lot of new opportunities and possibilities for the Casual Contender's next season. It's exciting.

Everyone you mention should have a shot. I'd like to see the Kacho go for it just so he can finally try to get that singles belt; it's really his last challenge. Eggman with the triple crown. And the pick-me-ups for Jensen and co., of course.

I think Travis needs more singles matches before I can determine if he's casual. He did beat Protoman with Airman, after all. Also Toad, maybe Zubaz (needs more matches) should go for it. The rest I agree with.
Edited by TheWorst, Mar 2 2015, 11:02 PM.
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Ebnasgbxpo
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The Casual Title can only go one way now: Random mid-carder gets #1 contender, beats Dan. Dan mind james's his way back into a title shot, wins back belt.

Repeat ad nauseum. Contenderships should ideally be given to the dumbest people on the roster.
Edited by Ebnasgbxpo, Mar 3 2015, 11:47 AM.
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goon
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I'm back with another edition of "You really expect me to read all that shit?"
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Goemon and Ness are above the midcard when I think of 'solid midcarders', albeit both are more untested than anything as we still don't have a good read on them. If Illidan and Snake are about equal, Barret beating Snake is about as good as DK beating Goemon (considering Goemon beat Snake... like, twice or something, 6-mans can get weird sometimes).
If we're talking straight singles matches (What essentially determines who gets a contendership shot) Goemon and Ness are midcarders.
Goemon is unquestionably a multiman expert, but in regular singles match record since his Casual Title match against Segata have been wins over Flint and Snake and losses to Phoenix and DK (In an extreme rules match) (As well as a 2k14 loss to Wario) Goemon has been booked as 'this guy is good in multimans, so let's put him up against top talent' and he's come up short. You're right in saying he's untested, matches against Vegeta, Groose, Break Man, Bison, even Illidan will help us get to know his singles ability better but right now I definitely wouldn't put him above midcard - plus it was an extreme rules match
Ness is a stranger case, he beat Satan, Red and Sonic, lost to Scorpion and DK and has been a tag man otherwise. I'll even contest the idea that Red is an impressive win (He's essentially a midcarder in singles and hasn't had many big wins since 2k13/his moveset revamp) so I didn't see a win over him (with managers no less) as impressive either
Also that 'trading wins' thing never works out

I guess this is all useless since the contender's match is locked but I just really want to see the contenders be built up as great challengers since Scorpion is now the undisputed champion. I'm always very skeptical when someone gets a win or two and people say that they're white hot when they're really not. It's like 'oh DK lost to Nappa, but Nappa's one of the best in the league so it doesn't matter but we'll still put him in a match to determine who faces Scorpion who's pretty much the best in the league', 'Haggar should be in the contender's match even though he hasn't had a singles victory since Tingle but now a week has passed and there's no buzz anymore', 'Barret beat one guy in an entire season give him a shot'

Comparing the last few contenders matches to this one you might get why I'm not too excited

DK (Wins over midcarders + a recent loss) VS Snake (Impressive wins but a recent loss) VS Barret (One win)

Duke Nukem (Wins over midcarders, reputed as a topcarder) VS Phoenix (Wins over midcarders + Destroyed Scorps in an Extreme Rules Match) VS Vegeta (Beat Johnny Cage + Pinned Scorpion in a 6-Man Tag Match)

Guile (5 match win streak, top heel, legitmately white hot and looking like he coud beat anyone) VS Bowser (5 match win streak, regarded as the best singles competitor in the league)

Phoenix (9-0) VS Dracula (6-0)

Phoenix (9-0) VS Scorpion (Just defeated Illidan) VS Snake (Wins over midcarders)

I don't understand why we need a number 1 contender's match the episode after a PPV event/Title defence. DK, Snake and Barret would've looked stronger and had more momentum if booked in another match (or exposed as not ready yet), and any of the other potential contenders who have just as much momentum towards a title match (Nappa, Dante, Haggar, Duke, Ganon) could've also grabbed people's attention if we waited one or two episodes. Oh well, hopefully we get some good matches, but buildup is half the fun of watching.
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FoxyStalin
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I think we're having this match on the season premire because Red put the title on hold for a solid half of season 9, which was a damn shame since Tag and Casual got into the habit of "frequent, energetic defense."

Snake and DK WERE hyped and ready, Snake a bit less so, yeah, but if Red hadn't put the title on hold for a month and a half we would have had Snake vs DK vs Haggar, probably on the same night that [Rumble Winner] vs Scorpion happened.

And I take exception to Duke's being "wins over midcarders" considering the guy had a singles record of 10-1 since Endgame 6 over people like Ganon, Guile, and Gabe Newell.
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The criteria for contenders must go down when there's a lengthy reign like Scorps, otherwise we'd just have the same people go for the belt and that would get boring fast. Actually that was the problem with the Season 8 tag division and the endless Saiyans DK Crew rematches. Having said that if there's a guy who's earned a rematch it's Duke. He beat Wright fair and square, which at the time was the most impressive thing other than taking the title. He also crushed the wildcard Ebi, and his two losses are tough to hold against him. A janky Nappa ladder match and Gary Oak, who might be the biggest monster we've ever seen.

Although last season was very Duke heavy, so it's understandable why he's not in the running. Other people have said Nappa would probably be the guy if he didn't have MITB, and they're probably right. Oak would also be up there if he wasn't GM.
Edited by stienerontheforklift, Mar 9 2015, 07:36 AM.
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