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#1 Contender Prediction Thread; Who will be the next opponent to go for the belt?
Topic Started: Sep 7 2013, 07:53 PM (94,625 Views)
FCD
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Seriously, i'm against seeing any of the CHallenge Tower participants having another title shot. Gary and Barret didn't do good enough aniway (and I really don't want to see a World champion GM ). Snake is losing match after match. Yeah, he was close, I even called is match ''the greatest match i've seen since I'm watchign the show'' and I stil belive it to be the truth the day after, but he is still in a losing streak and the fact of almost beating the guy that was champion at the tiem does not give you another shot at it. Donte did a good job, it's true, but could we stop the scenario of putting the same contenders back to back? Nappa could fight other peoples, like Duke Nukem, Goemon, Ganondorf etc. Hell, if Arino lose the casual title, he could start to want even more and go for the Big title. He had the tag title, the casual championship, why not the world championship? I think there is way more possibility than just Donte and Snake.
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pyrrhickong
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Why we so insistent?

We've FINALLY gotten past the glut of challengers and contenders that the Red/Scorpion wait made happen. We're finally at the point where we can just through the top card and high midcard against each other and see what happens. Throw Kanji at Bowser, throw DK at Dante, throw Air Man at Haggar, throw Goemon at Illidan, throw Bison at Duke.

Scorpion's era of endless challengers is over. Just let Nappa sit pretty for a while to let those guys underneath him figure out who gets to fight him. Pretty much ANYONE who isn't Barret can make a stake for the title now. It's exciting! Let's not ruin it with 'Snake had a hard life'. Snake can take a break and take solace in the fact that people love him.
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Django Boigas
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Apr 29 2015, 08:23 AM
So if I were to follow the logic for picking the challenge tower participants, what is stopping Dante from getting another shot. I understand that Dante was actually in a championship match, not a normal contenders, but from what I can tell nobody has really been notably trending with the exception of Zangief, so like how Snake and Barrett got another chance.

But what about Gary you ask? Well, he lost his Beat the Clock match so he has less of a claim, but still a claim nonetheless.

Gary's definitely blown his shot. Aside from the fact that we should try to discourage a GM Champion situation if possible, his momentum has completely and utterly tanked. He's #18 in the rankings which is borderline for title contention IF you've been doing exceptionally well lately and Gary has done anything but that. He lost his Beat the Clock match, got eliminated first in the Fatal Four Way and got smeared by Scorpion. If he put on a classic against Scorpion, maybe you look the other way. If he didn't lose first in the Fatal Four Way, maybe you look the other way. You put all of these factors together, though, and it's plain as day that Gary doesn't deserve a second chance without putting in some work to bolster his claim to it. Goemon, Ebisu, Ganon, Gief and Air Man are all above him in the rankings and all of them have had no recent opportunity to become #1 contender, or have never had one at all. Dante, Barret and Snake all have better cases. Personally I think Barret blew it and I just... kind of don't want to see him go after another title anytime soon. That's one too many failures to clinch and I kinda wanna just ground him, put him in the corner and make him think about what he's done. That has no bearing on anything, though, and he still has a real claim to it, my personal feelings notwithstanding. Just not right away.

Snake and Dante are the real stories, here. Dante's done too well, objectively speaking, to toss back into the pond so soon. He's still ranked #4 in the rankings, behind the current champion, the longest reigning champion of all time and the Casual champion. If Phoenix was able to wrangle three contender matches back in the Streak days, Dante at least deserves one more. As for Snake, clearly the people have spoken. To be honest, outside of public outcry and recognition for his latest effort, his claim is about as good as Barret's. Fastest loser in Beat the Clock and didn't win the Four Way puts him more or less where Barret is, merit-wise, in my book, but the results of yesterday's poll are about as unanimous as I've ever seen them and we really should take performance absent of result in matches in account in edge cases like these. Assuming Nappa's first defense is against a Rumble winner and the winner of that match goes on to defend at End Game, I wouldn't mind seeing Dante vs Snake [vs other upstarts who deserve a shot] determine who goes on to headline EG10. Whatever ends up happening, Gary's not up anymore and I don't think Barret deserves a chance at headlining the next PPV.
Edited by Django Boigas, Apr 29 2015, 12:27 PM.
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I really like the ''people have spoken'' saying Snake should ge tthe shot....while the 3 message before you explain why it's a bad idea and shouldn't be done. I do know the majority of the people want it, it just funny how much your timming is kind of off to say that line.
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Contenders tend to come naturally over time anyway. A rumble might be on the cards just to give other new faces the chance to reach the top card while Nappa fights the winner. The only people I can see still up their as contenders right now are Zangief and Dante. Heart says Snake deserves another shot but head says his recent record isn't too great so should back down.
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Captain Rodriguez
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Unless you want to give Snake and Dante more shots, there's really no clear #1 Contender. I'd say it's Rumble time.
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I love the fact that there is no clear number one contender (Cause I'm clearly not considering Dante and Snake to dserve another shot right after Challenge Tower). You can make guys like Goemon,Ebisu,Ganondorf,Zangief,Duke, DK, Dante and Snake fight between themself to try to show to the world who is the ebtter choice.
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RockHardRichard
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We JUST had a PPV. Maybe we should wait a while for the next one. Just have Nappa's first opponent be chosen through a regular #1 contenders match, and then have a the rumble after the title match.

The rumble doesn't HAVE to be some sort of special event, of course, but the rumbles of the past have had such great cards. Why not have one for this season as well?
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GirthIgnorer
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Emotion for Snake aside, I think the most logical course at this point is for the next contender to be a Royal Rumble winner. Then Snake and Dante if they've both managed to keep their momentum trending upwards, along with maybe one or two other guys who have built up momentum by that point.
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Rude_Semprini
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Yeah, just keep pushing Snake and Dante in their regular matches and they'll hopefully earn themselves another title shot by themselves. No need to shove them at this point. We have a new champion, so we can afford to catch our breath while looking for someone to go up against Nappa.

Snake WILL be champion again one day, and Dante WILL be a champ one day as well. Had those two been fighting ANY other champion in VGCW's history, they'd be the new champs. As it happens, they were fighting the strongest in VGCW's history. Other champs won't hold out as well against the sort of offense Snake was showing, or the counters Dante was using.
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If Snake can win one or two more matches, he's good, Dante is in the same position.

Zangeif is on a three win streak, Sabin and Vegeta are on two win streaks, but other than those three there's no one with major momentum, there's people who are doing things and in one or two more wins could have their name up there, and really, I think a rumble is the way to go as well.
It gives time for things to build up naturally instead of us pushing people into it, and they're always fun.
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MacScrewedMac
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Snake bias aside, now that Cage has effectively been knocked out of contention by the Persona guy ( ;_; ) , Gief and Bison have more momentum going than anyone. Gief finally ended the biggest rivalry ever with a huge win while also beating up the midcard and Roman Reigns, and Bison has beaten both a former VGCW Champion and the only person to ever beat 2k14 Scorpion clean, in what was a complete squash
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The Sto-
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To all the people saying Gary doesn't deserve another title shot, you're right, but he also probably didn't deserve this one either. He just gave himself one because he is best GM, and if he wants another one he's going to give himself another one.
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Introbulus
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Given the way that Nappa won the belt...

I think the Challenge Tower participants should participate in the next MitB match.
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SyntheticPolygon

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Apr 29 2015, 06:45 PM
Given the way that Nappa won the belt...

I think the Challenge Tower participants should participate in the next MitB match.
I don't think we'll be getting another mitb match for a while. Next season i'm guessing.


And if we're going to do a rumble for title contendership I feel like maybe it should have the caveat of the winner choosing what title to go for, so the matchup can be more according to their skills. We don't really need to see another 'Wily vs Protoman' or 'Ness vs Scorpion', though that does bring up kayfabe problems of "why would anyone not choose the top belt?"

And about Dante and Snake, Dante in my eyes still has the most momentum in the roster excepting Nappa and still has very legitimate cause for another shot. And Snake while on a major losing streak (5 matches I think [though 2 were multi-mans where he was pinned last]) has great story potential and has more than 80 people claiming his match against Scorps was MOTN despite being on a show with a bunch of great matches, and that's completely nuts.
Edited by SyntheticPolygon, Apr 29 2015, 07:18 PM.
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