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#1 Contender Prediction Thread; Who will be the next opponent to go for the belt?
Topic Started: Sep 7 2013, 07:53 PM (94,687 Views)
Hatman

As far as Scorpion is concerned, I'd want to see him in 2K14 against one of the top ten before booking him in a contenders' match. He still needs to prove that he can finally hang with the big boys because it's all heavyweights and up from here.
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Introbulus
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Well, since we now have ALL of the contenderships cleared away, here's my predictions for the next contender matches, and how they'll pan out.


VGCW Championship Contenders

:gwar: Too obvious. Unless Bazza has something against Bowser getting a shot at the belt, he's way overdue for another shot at greatness.

:ass: Even if he's only made a showing or two in the new game so far, The Nerd's top ranking power ought to be worth at least SOMEthing.

Ezio Is a bit of a long shot, but I think with his recent hot streak and huge Face Lift, he's right on track to make a stab at the Championship

Mac Is still pretty hot, and if his fire continues, he could easily find himself in a condender's match.

Sagat Despite not liking him myself, he seems dead set on becoming a contender for the Championship.

Groose Well, he DID win that three-way between him, Snake and Octodad. I think he's earned another shot.

The Winner: Bowsah of course. Guy deserves a shot.

Casual Contenders

:scorp: Has been doing very well lately, and I strongly suspect he's going to make a grab for the belt.

:hey: Won that four-way match, which I think earns him a spot in the condender list.

:mrmoney: Honestly, he could make a shot at the top as far as I'm concerned, but I'm sure he'd like a chance to wreck Segata.

:geta: Nappa has fallen pretty far since his days of being a prime contender. Maybe he'll aim a bit lower?

!snake! I think he could settle for the Casual Belt, and he would fare pretty well against his competition.

:skiesprotected: Makes a lowblow shot for the Casual Belt.

The Winner: After centuries of being King of the Midkard, Scorp finally gets a chance to claim his Belt.

Weegee L is real 2013.

Tag Team Championship

The Saiyans Have been around long enough and are looking strong enough to seriously make it as far as challenging Game Center FU. Whether they can beat them or not...remains to be seen.

Wario Ware Inc Got off to a rough start against Sonic Heroes, but I think they'll pull it around and make another shot at the championship.

The Winner: Vegeta and Nappa in an upset victory go on to face one of the toughest Tag Team champs known to the business.
Edited by Introbulus, Dec 12 2013, 08:32 PM.
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Hatman

I'm starting to think we need more fresh faces in the tag division - maybe two casualsters can team up if they aren't already in a team?
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My thoughts on the Casual Championship:

Casual picks:
Barret vs. Zangief vs. Nappa vs. Ezio vs. Captain Falcon vs. Goemon.

Barret's already had a shot against Segata, but that was back in WWE 13. Maybe he'll fare better in the 2k14 era. Zangief has been on a bit of a streak recently, despite the speedbump in the 4-way against Barret. Nappa seems well-suited for a Casual shot, as does Falcon. Ezio is also on a massive streak, and has recently gotten over with the fans. And Goemon might be an interesting dark-horse candidate.

Other possibilities could include Luigi or Guile. Snake's currently tied up in plot events, but I could see him going for a Casual run in Season 7. Wario and Scorpion are currently looking strong enough to break into main title contention, so I'm not really considering them.

Bonus Co-op prediction: I'm guessing we'll see Warioware face The Practice or Team America in the next episode. The winner of that match will face Vegeta and Nappa for the #1 contender spot. Though it's also possible that we'll see the Disciplinary Committee enter the tag scene and challenge one of the above for the match...
Edited by Wyvernil, Dec 13 2013, 04:49 AM.
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Feet PH.D
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Soo, I'm guessing the Saiyans vs. WarioWare is up next to determine the next tag team contender.
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Wyvernil
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Following tonight's broadcast, here's my thoughts on the contender situation:

Main Title:
Bowser vs. AVGN vs. Ganondorf vs. Wario

Possible contenders for matchups to determine remaining slots for a six-man match:
Sagat, Mr. Satan, Scorpion, Sonic, Duke Nukem, Goemon

Casual Title:
Nappa vs. Barret vs. Zangief vs. Captain Falcon vs. M. Bison vs. whoever wins the Ezio/Dracula match*

*If this match is planned to be an Endgame match, then Luigi looks like the best alternative pick for a sixth man. He's won his last couple of singles matches (against Tingle and Eggman), so he could be a good possibility.

Note: Some characters weren't included due to prior plot commitments, such as Phoenix or Snake. Until the plot resolves itself, they aren't likely to be included in title shots. Both Phoenix and Snake would be good choices for a Casual shot, though, once their plot involvement is complete.
Edited by Wyvernil, Dec 19 2013, 05:32 PM.
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Oh, God. Hopefully we get another casual title match before End Game 6. And where's Phoenix? Isn't he on like, a four match streak?

Or is he not included because he's too heavy into the plot?
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Here's some of the guidelines I use when making #1 Contender predictions:

- Which wrestlers have been winning their matches (or lasting until near the end in the case of multi-man matches)?
- How long ago was their last title shot or contender match?
- Are they currently involved in plot events?

- For Main Title contenders, I generally look at the top ten competitors in the power rankings, then take plot involvement and whether they've had a title match recently into account. Major upsets such as Scorpion's victory in his last Triple Threat match or Duke vs. DK are also taken into account.

- For Casual contenders, I usually look at the range of scores between 1100-800 and see who has been doing well recently. So, for instance, a rising competitor on a streak would be given more consideration than someone who was toppled from the upper midcard.

What guidelines do you use?
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I don't. I was just asking for clarification on yours. You clearly put a lot of thought into your posts, and I wanted a bit closer look.
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Wyvernil
Dec 18 2013, 04:40 AM
Here's some of the guidelines I use when making #1 Contender predictions:

- Which wrestlers have been winning their matches (or lasting until near the end in the case of multi-man matches)?
- How long ago was their last title shot or contender match?
- Are they currently involved in plot events?

- For Main Title contenders, I generally look at the top ten competitors in the power rankings, then take plot involvement and whether they've had a title match recently into account. Major upsets such as Scorpion's victory in his last Triple Threat match or Duke vs. DK are also taken into account.

- For Casual contenders, I usually look at the range of scores between 1100-800 and see who has been doing well recently. So, for instance, a rising competitor on a streak would be given more consideration than someone who was toppled from the upper midcard.

What guidelines do you use?
It depends on the source of the #1 contender shot is.

Traditional Matches for it I generally check the power rankings and look for people not involved with other things.

For MITB I try and think about who is Popular..but has not had a shot in a while or at all.
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Introbulus
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I mostly follow guidelines similar to Wyvernil. I don't usually consider plot-involvement too much, nor any standing rivalries. The casual belt has a much wider range of possible contenders than the championship belt, and I give weight to wrestlers who have recently been showing strength.
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Did you know? VGCW Champions Mike Haggar and Glitch Bomb DK both competed in Casual #1 Contenders matches earlier in their careers — and lost.

Casual Speculation

I’ve avoided Casual speculation so far, simply because it’s harder than speculating on the main title. Picking the best is easy, evaluating those with mixed success is a little more challenging. In this post, I'll be mostly considering Season 6 (2K14) performance.

Wrestlers who are ranked in the midcard by virtue of losing I don’t consider good candidates. This applies to the usual jobbers, but also to former high rankers on losing streaks. Sorry Donkey Kong (#20) and Air Man (#23). Remember when those guys were #2 and #3?

I haven’t given much consideration to plot or conflicting booking before, but that’s exactly what’s likely to keep the following two wrestlers out of the Casual #1 Contenders match.

Phoenix Wright (#19) would be a lock. He’s on a four-match win streak, beating Pyro, Flint, Gray Fox, and Jensen. The only problem is that he’s probably going to be busy with plot. Maybe he can spare one of his selves for the Contenders match?

Ezio Auditore da Firenze (#21) would also be at the top of the list after his hugely successful turn, but he’s already booked in Endgame 6 vs Dracula.


Likely Contenders

:aaaaaaa: Goemon (#16). He beat Dan, lost to Wario, and pinned Nappa to win a Triple Threat Elimination against him and Air Man. The only way he wouldn’t be booked for a Casual #1 Contenders is if he’s aiming higher.

:yes: M. Bison (#22). He beat Tingle and has looked pretty good in Co-Op, where he’s spent most of his time this season. He’s also ranked in the upper half of the roster. #pushbison

:geta: Nappa (#25). He beat Captain Falcon, and pinned Air Man but lost to Goemon in their Triple Threat Elimination match. The Saiyans did win their Co-Op match, so I’m not sure if he’s going to be busy contending for that title.

:skiesprotected: Zangief (#27). He beat Barret, Gary, didn’t win but didn’t get pinned in the Fatal Four-Way with Red, Barret, and Barkley, and didn’t embarrass himself in the Steel Cage with Segata, Mr. Satan, and Kefka.

:hey: Barret Wallace (#29). He lost to Zangief, pinned Red to win the Fatal Four-Way with Zangief and Barkley, and lost to Bowser, no shame in that.

:falconpunch: Captain Falcon (#30). He lost to Nappa and beat Jensen. He’s never out of place in Casual competition.


Dark Horses

Solid Snake (#32). He didn’t win but didn’t get pinned in his Triple Threat against Groose and Octodad, and he beat Octodad in a submission match. Probably going to be busy with plot though.

Luigi (#34). He beat Tingle, was the first eliminated in the last Contenders match (by Ezio), and beat Eggman. I think there are better choices, but I could see him get another shot.

Flint (#37) is a long shot. He just hasn’t been booked. He eliminated Dan and got eliminated 4th (by Ezio) in the last Contenders match. That match is the only one he’s had in Season 6, even being left out of the Royal Rumble. I wouldn’t mind seeing him get a second chance.


Any of the others usually under consideration are either too highly ranked — Wario (#8), Scorpion (#11), Sonic (#12) — or haven’t actually won at all this season (Guile, Red, Octodad). Or just blew their chance (Knucklehead).

I also got some stuff to say about the main title, but I think this post has gone on long enough.
Edited by SAShieldhill, Jan 5 2014, 11:29 AM.
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Pretty much in full agreement with that list. There will supposedly be a #1 Contender match in tomorrow's broadcast, and if it's for the Casual title, those would be who I'd pick for the match, as well. Goemon's kind of on the border between "midcard" and "gunning for top card", though, so I'm not sure if I'd swap in Luigi in his place.

I'm hoping to see some matches involving Scorpion, Sonic, Sagat, and a few others at the upper-midcard/lower main-eventer range in order to gauge their viability for a contender shot, though.
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Well, seeing DK in the Casual Contender match was a surprise, since he'd just been knocked out of the top tier. However, in the end, Goemon takes the match, and gets to move on to challenge Segata for the Casual Belt.

Now to move on to the main event. If there was a #1 Contender match for the VGCW title next week, who would be there? Here's some possibilities:

Bowser: It's been a long time coming for the King of Awesome to return to the title scene. He's a definite lock.

Ganondorf: Bowser's eternal rival, Ganon, won't be far behind, though. After proving himself against Zangief and Duke, he's ready to claim his fourth VGCW title.

AVGN: Another strong competitor with a strong ranking, the Nerd is certainly deserving of a shot, especially after proving himself the stronger member of his tag team.

Little Mac: shootin'em'up ? Maybe not, since Mac is getting a consistent push against various members of the midcard. It's possible that he's aiming to reclaim the belt that was once his.

Wario: Mr. Money has been surprisingly strong in the singles game, but most of his attention has been occupied with co-op competition. He's a strong possibility for the title shot, but if the Saiyans haven't already clinched the co-op contender slot, then he might be busy.

The sixth slot is much more nebulous. Had Groose or Scorpion won their Triple Threat match, then the winner would likely take the spot. However, the dark snake took the victory, and Snake's both occupied with the plot and much lower in the rankings. Likewise, the match between Duke and Octodad was cut short by 2kQuality, so Duke is robbed of a potential push in the rankings. Sagat could be a possible contender, but he's been tied up with co-op duties, and hasn't had a single match in the singles division. Tentatively, the best choice appears to be:

Sonic: He's been getting a strong push recently, and could be an interesting dark horse choice for the VGCW contender. Like Duke, he's claimed victory over Donkey Kong in his slump toward the midcard, which could be the push he needs to spindash toward main eventer status. He may, however, still need to prove his worth against a top-tier opponent. Perhaps the VGCW contender match could be his chance?
Edited by Wyvernil, Jan 7 2014, 09:30 PM.
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I would personally love to see AVGN fight Bowser one vs one for a title shot, having those 6 in there, I'm good with that too.
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